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JoshStodola
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Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/19/2007 7:59:48 PM

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Hi everyone,

I want to disable design view entirely.  I am not complaining about it, dont get me wrong.  I do understand how hard (nearly impossible) WYSIWIG things are to develop.  But it's just not accurate enough for me, it is very misleading.  I never use it, and I dont want to wait for it to load anymore.  I am also discovering some colleagues trying to solve problems that dont even exist, based on what they see in the designer.

I hope this is an option, there really cant be too many people that rely on the designer out there.  To be completely honest with you, the majority of all my pages look like crap in design view.  Stuff is scattered all over the place out of position.

How can I completely disable this option?

Thanks in advance...

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vcsjones
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/19/2007 8:18:40 PM

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Open "Tools" > "Options..." > "HTML Designer".

Change the "Start pages in" to "Source View"

 This won't completely "disable" the design view, but when you open a page, it will start in the source view and not the design view. You will have to manually switch to the design view now.

Cheers,
       Kevin Jones
JoshStodola
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/19/2007 8:22:43 PM

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Thanks Kevin, but I did that the same day I installed VS Big Smile

I want to completely disable it, so I don't have to wait for it to load each time I open a solution.  I'm also sure having the designer up and running requires quite a bit of overhead, even when it's not being used.  These are the things I am trying to fix.

Thanks again.

 

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vcsjones
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/19/2007 8:24:52 PM

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The designer doesn't do any loading until you actually switch to it, so if it starts out in the Source View, VS won't initialize the designer until you switch to it for the first time. So, disabling it won't have any benefits. Secondly, I don't beleive there is a way to truely disable the designer.
Cheers,
       Kevin Jones
JoshStodola
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/19/2007 8:29:53 PM

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On the contrary, Kevin.  Sometimes I have to work with huge solutions.  When I say huge, I mean huge (500+ web forms, no exaguration).  And it spends minutes with the message at the bottom "Loading Designer" (even with my current setting to start in source view).  So obviously it does do plenty of loading before switching to it.

And then, sometimes my intellisense takes forever to respond, I also feel this could be designer related.

Thanks again.

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vcsjones
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/19/2007 8:37:37 PM

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Ah, IntelliSense is doing it - I think. In order for IntelliSense to work correctly, it needs to load up all of the pages, and determine all of the classes and their members. Try disabling IntelliSense, and see if that is what is causing it. I know that is a not-so-good solution, but I am interested if that is what is causing the issue.

The actual Designer "Surface" is not loaded until it is activated for the first time with that page.

Cheers,
       Kevin Jones
JoshStodola
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/19/2007 8:45:48 PM

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I think you might be right.  I disabled statement completion (why they call it intellisense everywhere except in the settings I have no clue), closed the solution, waited a minute or two, and re-opened it.  It did load significantly quicker.  But, I just had it open and running, so the true test is going to be tomorrow morning after a fresh boot.

I will let you know how it turns out.  In the meantime, Im going to email Mikhail and see if he knows a "secret" way of disabling the designer.

Thanks for your help so far.

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Mikhail Arkhipo
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/20/2007 12:36:35 AM

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Intellisense is not using the designer at all. "Loading designer" message means that some pages in the solution were opened in DV when solution was closed so IDE is restoring page in the last used view. Perhaps other developers what are working on the solution closed it with pages open in DV?
Thanks

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JoshStodola
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/20/2007 4:27:00 AM

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Mikhail, this would be an accurate assumption.  We use visual source safe, and all my colleagues use the designer.

So, would it be at all possible to disable this on my machine?

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Mikhail Arkhipo
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/20/2007 4:57:14 PM

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No, it cannot be disabled selectively. However, view state is saved in SUO files which typically reside next to SLN file. SUO file is per user and should not be checked in or shared across developers. Perhaps it is checked in into VSS?
Thanks

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JoshStodola
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Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/20/2007 5:09:00 PM

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Darn.  I guess I will have to deal with it (sigh).  SUO files were not getting checked in, by the way.

Thanks for all your help.

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Mikhail Arkhipo
Asp.Net User
Re: Web Devloper: Disable Designer4/20/2007 5:26:17 PM

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If you always have personal SUO file, and you never open pages in DV, then it should not contain any saved view state that would make VS open page in DV and load the designer.
Thanks

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