Ok, I've been checking out the DNN 2.x which I downloaded the other day for a few days now.

One of the things I'm looking at doing is creating a subscription based web site. So, when a person signs up, they will need to arrange for payment.

Can the DNN handle this already? I noticed the payment processor, but I haven't found any other information about what it does or how to use it. A search of these forums return nothing (which I'm sure isn't correct).

Can anyone enlighten me?

No DNN does not allow you to do this automatically out of the box...

You can use Patrick Santry's PayPal IPN module and integrate it into your site.

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Unfortunately I don't think that will work for me. I'm going to need to charge for user registration, but it will probably be via credit card, not pay pal, so I guess I'll have to see about writing my own registration module to replace the current one.

Hopefully, this won't be too difficult to do :)

actually dnn2 is already setup to run a subscrib system. Create your roles and fiull out the sub costs etc click the public and auto box's.

now when you register to the site the different subs are listed in a table and the surfer can click on subscribe for any roll. This will then link to paypal where the surfer pays the bill and then returns to the site. Meanwhile paypal does it thing and calls the ipn driver on your site where the paypal response is checked and if ok the surfer is registered within the role selected.

all this is already in DNN

however you must configure your paypal account correctly to have paypal respond with the ipn. To test this all out go to paypal and search for 'sandbox' this will explain how you can use the paypal developer sandbox for testing your portal interface.

The Sandbox is basically a copy of paypal but no money changes hands

To interface credit cards to DNN2 is not hard - you simply replace the paypal interface with the card interface.( look in admin/sales folder)
John

John's reply is correct... I understood you wanted to have users subscribe to the site, and up to this day I thought this was only possible for created roles, not for the Registered Users role. I wen back and checked in 2.1. and realized this is also possible.

Thanks John, I learnt another new thing today, I thought Xmas weekend would be just about food ;) Now I will have to code my CC provider, since I can't use PayPal nor the other providers...

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John, thanks. That is the type of info I was looking for. I will start poking around to setup pay pal and then work on the credit card piece too.

John,

Did you mean that instead of PayPalIPN.aspx.vb and PayPalSubscription.aspx.vb
pages (and not Purchase.ascx.vb) we will need to create CCIPN.aspx.vb and
CCSubscription.aspx.vb?
Do we collect credit card information while on DNN installation. If yes, people may be suspicious if they don't see HTTPS in the URL. Usually you go to Credit card payment for on some other site and fill you that information there?
I am basically asking how to proceed with Credit Card interface. Any source code out there to take a pick?

Thanks
Rad

I prefer to use paypal and the like mainly as I don't need to hold credit card info on the server and secondly as I am in Australia ( australian banks etc are still in the first generation stage)

I would actually link out of dnn for the credit card collection - ie open a second browser window under the https mode and get all the details there and process there - then drop back into dnn.

there is a lot of code snippets out on the net for credit card processing however have a look at consensus store front package ( open source) you should find most of the code in that for CC processing.

Paypal is safe and secure does not charge to much and makes it very easy . There are a number of paypal look alikes.

One unusual one is Egold which does the transactions in gold rather then cash - depending on what country your client is in - it is usually tax free income and can be converted to cash via a debit card. - he allows payments via paypal or egold - any payments coming in via egold have means of government tracking thus tax free.

By the way if accepting credit cards then you will need a merchant account with the bank and most banks provide the code to interface -

Now as to finding things in DNN - spent last night reading other DNN forums - one especially that basically states that DNN Sucks mainly because it has no documentation which is really spot on. You really have to spend a few days reading the code to work everythiung that dnn can do.

John

It is true that DNN documentation was slacking, the core has said several times that this will be changed in DNN 3. I believe there are three areas at least that will have focus: End User (Site Administration and DNN Usage), Skinning and Coding Modules (DNN extension).

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actually code documentation is totally lacking - in normal cmmercial programming situations the code would be documented fully - this may sound old fashioned but most of the pre release errors and bugs would be picked from the code docs - the code docs state what the programmer is intending to do - the code states what the programmer ended up doing - rather then debugging by running the code one debugs by reading the code and the docs. it is hard to believe that pre micro computers we used to desk run the code to debug it and usually only got 2 runs on the computer pre production.

John

When I was taught how to properly program (not *that* long ago, late 80s) we were told that you program behind a desk, not behind a computer. Of course this was at a time when serious small computers were VAX 750s with dozens of students compiling their Pascal code at the same time. When I got my first PC a little while later Turbo Pascal was an eye opening experience :-)

Anyway, I digress.

I just downloaded DNN 3 after having dabbled in earlier versions some time ago. I understand .NET a lot better now (but still have lots to learn) so I'm making better progress. The lack of documentation that comes with the package was a bit of a disappointment, especially for such a mature and professional project. This did of course open the door to the authors to write a book about DNN which will probably sell well and provide them some much deserved financial recognition. Still, I would expect the dotnetnuke.com site itself to have basic tutorials on how to setup the site, customize it and how to get started in module development.

I'm also looking at receiving payments from users and hiding certain functionality from 'free' members.

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Maybe I am too much of an optimist, I think you are in good shape to begin designing skins and developing modules with what is already there.

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I took your comments to mean I haven't looked hard enough yet so I gave it another shot. Wouldn't you know it, there's a documentation directory in the source tree. I had looked on the dnn site and elsewhere but mostly found 2.x material.

Anyway, thanks for sparking a new, fruitful, effort!

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Nocturnal, yes, that is exactly what I meant. Some of the documents need updating, like the DNN Manifest, but others are brand new. I printed all of them today, a few hundred pages... 2005 is definitely looking brighter for the DNN community.

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Hi all,

raca wrote:

John, Did you mean that instead of PayPalIPN.aspx.vb and PayPalSubscription.aspx.vb pages (and not Purchase.ascx.vb) we will need to create CCIPN.aspx.vb and CCSubscription.aspx.vb?

I've read some posts on DNN and Paypal and I want to add my own Payement Processor that acts like Paypal (load URL and then redirect to DNN to set the role depending on the transaction result).

I think I can modify the default pages about Paypal, but I want to add my own entries in the Payement Processor list.

I can I do that ?!? Wich files I have to edit ?!?

Thanks a lot for your replies...

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